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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 19:36:46 -0500 Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving But, you make it sound like the right lane is the only place to be when driving. If I am 5 MPH faster than the guy on MY right, then I have every right to be left of him. Just because you are 5 MPH faster than me, doesn't mean that I have to deny myself the passing, just so you can go by. You 'rights' end where mine begin. I would consider passing at a speed differential of only 5 mph to be borderline dangerous. The passing process should be shortened to avoid spending time in blind spots, blocking any possible emergency maneuvers the other car might have to perform, and holding up traffic to the rear. People who refuse to accelerate, or override the damn cruise control for a few seconds, to pass really are not good drivers IMHO. If you are going 65, and need to pass a car going 60, speed up to 70-75 for the pass. If you can't make that pass without holding someone else up, you shouldn't pass. Any time you impede the progress of the car behind you in the left lane, you violate the "slower traffic keep right" axiom. Your rights end where mine begin? I'm sorry, but we share the right to use the highway. Some are apparently not willing to make the effort to share by altering their speed to accommodate other traffic, even for a few seconds. My rights end at your doorstep, not the left lane. Please be courteous, safe, and speed up to pass! Happy motoring!
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:05:39 -0600 Chris Chubb wrote:
As much as possible the right lane (at least not the left) IS the place to be
driving. If someone is going 5mph faster than you, and it is safe for you to
get out of his way, then yes you are obligated to, whether you are passing
or not. However if it is not safe (not enough distance in between cars, you
are in mid-pass too close to the other car to get over, etc.) then he is
obligated to back off and wait until he can get by safely, IE until you are
finished passing.
I also have a car that is fast enough for anybody. But, I do not
'intimidate' them when I want to pass. I come up behind them and
wait. If I see a few sizable right lane openings, and I am not
approacing a left exit, then I flash my highbeams. After two tries,
I back off, and figure some other method. I will not risk my life
or the life of others for 3.4 seconds of improved time. Excellent. I'm always glad when I see that there are others out there who also know the correct proceedure. That by the way is exactly what I do as well, flash lights, and again if it doesn't work, and if it still doesn't work pass on the right when it is safe to do so.
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:22:17 -1000
However there is another issue about tailgating which is also important,
because though it doesn't create crashes directly, it pollutes the
mental atmosphere on the road, and indirectly causes most of the crashes
(5 million of them last year). Thus it is important. This is the
aggressiveness and hostility that motivates tailgaters to tailgate.
It's easy to tailgate in response to frustration and helplessness --
even irresistible under many conditions. However, though easy, it isn't
fair or nice or legal or safe.
So that's my point. Every time tailgating is mentioned, the argument
instantly comes up about safety and risk. I think the argument of
sanity and fairness also deserves mention, perhaps even more so!! Are
you prepared to declare to the world that tailgating is unfair and
mean???????? I am. So carrying a loaded pistol would be bad also right? You're from Hawaii dude....I was there for a while (Honolulu).....King St. is about 8 lanes going both ways and the speed limit is what.....25mph (or 30mph). no wonder traffic is packed during rush hour. And if you're from the other islands....then you really don't have to go through what we all go through here....Wash DC. But what you say is correct though.
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Date: 5 Nov 1996 18:29:37 GMT Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
In article <326bf1dd.78ce@aloha.net>, Leon James wrote:
that doesn't work for me, but this did. 1)get a small, poorly handling underpowered car with a stick (my example: ford festiva, i had it for 2 years and it was a blast).
2)dart around the city late at night (this worked for my 100,000 pop city, i
guess it 3)you may be going 40-55, but it feels like 80+ because of the crappy car! it's a blast. squeal around turns, etc.. and you're still going under the 'safe limit'. 4)stay out of races with real cars, the feeling goes away quicky..(but you can light the tires for a laugh...) or, take the car to a local field or something and go offroading.. but that's a whole different story. ("son, how did grass get embedded between your tire and the wheel?")
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Jekyl & Hyde Syndrome
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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:18:26 -1000 | Hello Dr Driving: I remember a classic cartoon from The New Yorker of a meek, milquetoast kind of man walking out of his house to his car. With each step towards his vehicle, a transformation was occurring until he was behind the wheel, when the Mr Hyde character had totally emerged (you know, fangs, evil grin, etc). The sad part of it is that I know a person LIKE this. I guess psychologically there is the illusion of power when one is in control of a two ton sedan. Now if we're talking about the driver of a SPORTS UTILITY VEHICLE...WATCH OUT !!! Drivers of those things are even worse!! The sad part of all of this is it's very dangerous! Not just for the OTHER drivers or pedestrians, but for the driver who is on this "power trip." All it takes is some OTHER lunatic on the road, and you have the makings of a real tragedy (as the News media have been reporting lately). |
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:11:30 -1000 Dr. Driving:
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:41:28 -1000Quoting Leon James: I was taught to have respect for others, thank you very much. This is precisely why many drivers irritatae the hell out of me. Because they don't even exhibit the pretense of having respect for others and while driving appear to not even be aware of the activity they are engaged in. Even the most simple courtesy is beyond their capactiy, never mind that they would operate a lethal weapon (their car) with skill. I have no interest in developing a tolerance for rude thoughtless behavior. It seems to me that tolerating bad social behavior is one of the fundamental problems in our culture. Taken to the limit, tolerance for unintelligent disrespectful behavior is what allows dictators to come to power (a little extreme, but I wanted to make my point).
I've never understood why this is such a difficult concept for people to
use of the left lane and the speed you are travelling have NOTHING to do with
passing or approaching (with significance) another vehicle, stay the
*&*^%! out of the left lane.
Leon James wrote:
Ok, let's talk about social responsibility for a minute. How responsible is it to tailgate 1 metre behind a car with your high-beams on? The risk that you put yourself in along with the occupants of the car you're following cannot be justified by the fact that you want to go faster. However, as far as use of the left lane goes, as long as there's room (eg. in non-rush-hour times), the left lane should be used for passing. The original poster's method of enforcing this custom is primitive and childish.
Quoting Leon James again: The thing that riles me while on the road is the selfishness of certain drivers who think that they own the road. Their casual disregard for the lives and well-being of others makes me positively ill. And yet, when I sound my horn in frustration at these morons, I know that they couldn't care less, and that all I've accomplished is a raise in my blood pressure. Leon James is absolutely right when he recommends that we "refuse to buckle down to savagery on the road". Violence and aggressiveness is unacceptable in interpersonal relationships, so why does it seem to be acceptable once one gets behind the wheel of a vehicle? I can't control other drivers, but I _can_ control myself, and so I try to lay off the accelerator and the horn. A final piece of advice if you don't like the way someone is driving, write down their license plate and some info about their vehicle, and call it in to your local police. That's what I do.
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